Showing posts with label hubs. Show all posts
Showing posts with label hubs. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 25, 2010

More Wobble Diagnoses

Here are some responses to my previous post on wobble:


1. I'd mention how non-parallel drops will bow a hub axle & 'cone' out the bearing seat(s). I went through a couple hubs before I realized this. -WeedBMX




2. Some bearings just simply have play in them too. I've cured some wobbly hubs with new, higher quality bearings. I've also cured some hubs that are way too tight with once wobbly bearings. Although very very tight, bearing manufacturers also have a tolerance to work with. - Couch of Zodiac Engineering




3. It is very important to distinguish between bearing arrangements that may LOOK similar, but behave in different ways.

With a crank:-

The load acts in a relatively constant direction relative to the OUTER race, so the INNER race "sees" a load which acts radially but at a varying direction.

ie. if you mark a white dot on the inner race of the BB bearing, then when the dot is at the bottom, the load acts to push the axle INTO the dot.
But when the dot is at the top the load acts to pull the axle away from the dot.

So it is important that a crank axle is a fairly close fit inside the bearing to prevent the axle "rolling around" inside the race and causing wear.


With a hub:-

The load acts in a relatively constant direction relative to the INNER race, so the OUTER race "sees" a load which acts radially but at a varying direction.

So with a hub, it is more important that the OUTER race is a good fit in the hub shell and the inner race can be a looser fit on the axle (which helps allow the bearings to align with each other).


There are a number of standard bearing "arrangements" based upon whether load is radially oscillating or constant; and that "fully retain" different races. For the record it is "incorrect" to fully retain all the races. Bearing mountings should allow for differential thermal expansion of different components. - G of
G-sport

Tuesday, March 9, 2010

Fair Wheel Bikes Road Hubs Review

Wow, what a massively comprehensive review. Thanks to the guys at Fairwheels for their continued contributions to the cycling community! Although it is all road stuff, There is quite a bit we can take from this. I'll write a post sometime soon discussing the various designs available for cassettes. And here is an interesting quote about bracing angle. I am sure the square rule works well as an approximation for road wheels, but I wonder if it is accurate as we get down to smaller rim diameters:

Notes on Bracing angle: Bracing angle (or flange offset) is the most important factor effecting the lateral stiffness and stability of the wheel. The lateral stiffness imparted by the spokes goes up with the *square* of the bracing angles, while using more or heavier spokes only results in a linear increase in stiffness... and an increase in weight.


And now for some hub porn

C-4 Flangeless
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Alchemy with super wide bearing and flange spacing
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Tune carbon-wrapped flangeless:
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Alchemy rear with bearings inside and outside driver to maintain concentricity

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Tune with Carbon-fiber axle. Who wants to be the first to test this with pegs ;)

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